Please allow multiple drops of voyage only crew

In numerous topics regarding Voyages this has been asked, but not yet in 'make it so'. So here's my formal request:

Please allow for voyage-only crew to drop from their dilemma's more than once!

Benefit for players: better able to finish the voyage only crew, which now requires too much hard-earned honor. This allows us to actually use the voyage only crew at a higher level.

Benefit for DB: this will encourage players to extend their voyages for dilithium, since it becomes realistic for them to finish decent 4star crew.

So please, make it so! :-)

Comments

  • Seconded!
  • *ST* Donatra*ST* Donatra ✭✭✭✭
    It's still hard enough to even get to such a dilemma, so yes ... abso-loot-ly ... multiple stars please for the voyage-exclusive crew. Thank you! :)
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  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 10
    They would probably never do this for current Voyage crew, because otherwise they'd have an uprising on their hands to make the Mirror Picard Snafu look minor by comparison. DB has stated (and recently clarified) that Voyage-exclusive crew will drop one-time only, so a number of players have already used Honor citations to fuse up crew they've gotten there. If suddenly that crew that they've spent Honor to FF was made available in additional Voyage drops, well, you can imagine the pitchforks that would be raised.

    Now, at some point, maybe they could say: "We are retiring all current Voyage-only crew in 2 months. Get yours while you can. In the future, after the current Voyage-only crew have been retired, Voyage-exclusive crew will be not be one-time only drops, so you can get them FF from running the same Dilemmas multiple times." But offering multiple drops for future Voyage-exclusive crew and not current Voyage-exclusive crew is the only way I ever see this happening.


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  • AntasilAntasil ✭✭✭
    For the vast majority of players the voyage only crew are now mostly useless. That is why I still think my suggestion is an improvement. Perhaps a compensation can be arranged for the people who have used honor to FF these characters. According to a recent poll that hasn't been done by a lot of players.
  • IrialIrial ✭✭✭
    I agree with @Data1001, as going back now and changing the communication/rules on these characters after players have already spent Honor to Immortalize them would be very troublesome.
  • *ST* Donatra*ST* Donatra ✭✭✭✭
    They aren't legendary crew. I doubt it would cause a huge upset, it's just six of over 200 purples out there and actually, Colonel Worf and Fierce Guinan are only 2-skillers and therefore useless for voyages. To me, these cards have only collector value.
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  • Shy KhanShy Khan ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13
    The “players have already spent money” argument also only really applies to the first and second adopter rounds of purchases. 6 months to a year after their initial release, opening these drops up to in-game drops is perfectly acceptable. This isn’t the same as the Mirror Picard bait and switch.
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  • IrialIrial ✭✭✭
    Shy Khan wrote: »
    The “players have already spent money” argument also only really applies to the first and second adopter rounds of purchases. 6 months to a year after their initial release, opening these drops up to in-game drops is perfectly acceptable.

    I do not think one should compare the Voyages only one-time drop crew to other characters who are indeed released for "purchase". It is normal for crew that can initially be purchased through special offers/packs for them to eventually make their way into the regular Premium portal packs, but the whole point of the Voyages only crew is they were not released for purchase, and instead you needed to acquire them through successfully completing specific Dilemmas. And since it was communicated ahead of time that they only drop once, some players have made the choice to spend Honor to FF them, precisely because this is the only way to Immortalize these characters.
    If the communication at the beginning was that the Voyages characters could drop multiple times (i.e., up to at least 4 times each), then players would have had a different option available to them to Immortalize these characters, and could have not spent the 54,000 Honor on each.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭
    The clown has been reported to drop more than once. Possibly twice only and the reason for the second drop was because of a bug fix.
    These crew are basically airlock material unless DB decides to make them drop more than once.

    I made the mistake on my main account of leveling Lucien, Jannar, and Thot Gor.
    I have not gotten anyone else. I still am not sure Fierce Guinan and Colonel Worf are one drop. So I will hold on to them to see if they drop a second time.but I still have not gotten the first on either account.

    On my 2nd account I airlocked Lucien and Jannar. I only got Jannar because I thought I was on my main account. When I got Jannar I thought I got a second then I realized I was on my iPad which is what I use for my second account.
    I have The Clown on my second account sitting at level 5 . I have not gotten a repeat of the dilemma since bug fix. If I get a second copy I will have to decide to airlock or not. I believe I will airlock him eventually if I see no other way to finish him other honor.
  • While I agree with the OP, it occurs to me that spending 54K honor on Voyages only crew is actually a better deal than adding a second, sometimes third star to many of the older Legendaries.

    Stat-wise most of the Voyages only crew are comparable to older 2* Legendaries and there's the added benefit of being able to realistically immortalize to contribute to the achievement total, and then to cryo them and free up a crew slot.

    This is still a pretty weak selling point, but it's something...?
  • I believe this was set the way it was in order to keep people playing voyages for a long time. If you give up voyage crew easier then people will finish off their voyage only crew faster and have less need to spend dil in the end. I believe you are looking at this from only one side. Once you have all possible voyage only crew ff fe my guess is that you would stop spending dil on voyages and just play whatever you could for dil honor and chrons without having to spend dil. If the concern is wasting honor how about asking them to increase honor drop in voyages to accommodate the purchase of stars for crew that is hard to get more than one of.
  • Wizzdome wrote: »
    I believe this was set the way it was in order to keep people playing voyages for a long time. If you give up voyage crew easier then people will finish off their voyage only crew faster and have less need to spend dil in the end. I believe you are looking at this from only one side. Once you have all possible voyage only crew ff fe my guess is that you would stop spending dil on voyages and just play whatever you could for dil honor and chrons without having to spend dil. If the concern is wasting honor how about asking them to increase honor drop in voyages to accommodate the purchase of stars for crew that is hard to get more than one of.

    This statement is illogical. It's not about giving up voyage only crew (VOC) easier, it's about giving up more of them at the difficulty rate they are at now. Your statement "in order to keep people playing voyages for a long time" accounts for only the time when you finally get the 6 VOC after x amount voyages and to be lucky enough to have the crew drop anytime before the 24 hour dilemma. If you had to get 24 of the crew (4 of each), you would KEEP PLAYING voyages until all 24 dropped... much better than to keep playing only until 6 drop. The current state has you eventually getting a VOC then not trying for that crew again because he doesn't exist anymore, and you use citations to FF.
  • I hope that VOC (voyage only crew) will drop more than once, mainly because I had the Clown drop but due to a lack of crew space and his low stats compared to what I currently had I jettisoned him. At the time I didn't realise that they were a one time only drop.
    To be honest I don't see the logic of it being a one time only drop myself. People will chase them until they drop then give up on voyages to use honour to FF them. Where as if they dropped more than once (as has been mentioned) the honour would be used for something else while copies are sort via voyages. And it would help those who jettisoned any before realising they were one time only deals.

    I suppose I could send a ticket in but I don't want any of them as yet due to lack of space.
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  • Well that would make me not actively avoid voyage crew dilemmas.... I don't need yet another 1/4 and in this case that will stay 1/4 , I'd much rather upgrade a 5* with 1 more * instead of buying 3* on yet another mediocre 4*

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