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Datacore Current Status

Players who use the Datacore site may have seen the "shutting down soon " message which has caused a lot of concern in the community as it's one of the most used tools.
We thought it best to let the everyone know this will probably not be the case now.

A number of us have decided to join Temporal agent 7 in working on Datacore, ensuring it is supported and properly funded, instead of leaving all the Development time and costs of up to $100 per month on his shoulders.

We have established a GitHub and moved development there to make this a reality, our first objectives will be to port the software to a community build, then optimize the bandwidth to cut hosting costs, (That's a lot of screenshots to read!!)

Already we are coming up with ideas to make the next version even better, if you have ideas and software development experience, check out https://github.com/orgs/stt-datacore/

We will do our best to cut the cost of hosting before asking for anything like donations from community, but thanks to all the offers we've already had of support.

There will be further updates as time goes on.
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  • dext74dext74 ✭✭✭
    Holy cow -- I have only a rudimentary understanding of modern hosting needs ... what kind of demands run on the system to be $100 per month on hosting?
  • eXo | SilverRoseeXo | SilverRose ✭✭✭✭✭
    dext74 wrote: »
    Holy cow -- I have only a rudimentary understanding of modern hosting needs ... what kind of demands run on the system to be $100 per month on hosting?

    As Damn said, hosting costs / bandwidth are some of the things that the technically-minded folks are looking to optimize. Anyone who is a nerd on this stuff is totally needed and welcome to help with the project through the github.
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  • [rr] Zathras[rr] Zathras ✭✭
    edited July 14
    The bot is on ~40 discord servers and sends alot of data in response to requests for voyage and behold advice.
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bot is on ~40 discord servers and sends alot of data in response to requests for voyage and behold advice.

    So, consolidating would definitely be better?

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  • Exactly, we are looking at optimizing the code and slimming down the hosting costs before going any further. Once its supportable we can look at new features and improvements
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14
    @{ACE}[email protected] to bring down hosting costs, have you considered using various providers?

    I get £75 a month from Azure, have a fair amount of free AWS stuff and use a free Netlify package for hosting a nuxt-generated static site. I also used to have a Linode box that was pretty cheap, which was fine for docker images.

    You need to get your architecture right, and it can be a bigger faff that using one spot, but you can get crazy savings too.
  • Thanks for letting us know! I knew people were working on a replacement/improvement but that’s all I knew. I appreciate both the update on the state of the project right now as well as all of your willingness to work on it. Thank You!
  • Have you guys considered a Patreon for the cost? Many of us throw $4 USD at a monthly card. Community resource, community funded
  • Great News. Thanx guys.
  • Legate Damar Legate Damar ✭✭✭✭
    Make sure to file TPS reports after the changes are made.
  • RegentsArw wrote: »
    Have you guys considered a Patreon for the cost? Many of us throw $4 USD at a monthly card. Community resource, community funded

    Yep, there's a couple of platforms being tossed around and Patreon is in the mix. Once there's a better idea of ongoing costs once the... uh... containerization and docking and optimization (did I use those words right?)... gets narrowed down more, then the group will report back and start peddling on a street corner for handouts.

    This describes it much better than i did :smiley:
  • cmdrworfcmdrworf ✭✭✭✭
    I've been following on discord. I just need some time to dig into it more. I live and breathe this stuff at work all day long.
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  • [10F] gobolts07 [10F] gobolts07 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks all for doing this!

    Once you’ve placed things in containers and docked we’ll be happy to help.

    Whatever any of that means. It probably involves maths which means I’d be completely rubbish at it.
  • StokeyStokey ✭✭
    Can't help with coding but happy to test things and break them if they can be broken - if that is of any use to you amazing people stepping up to keep Datacore on the road for us all?
  • Thanks, awesome folks! I don’t spend on the game, but I’d be into spending on y’alls work if you do a crowd fund thingy. We should be able to cover your costs with no trouble, even via a load of people giving you 10 cents a month lol.

    I don’t know if this is a can of worms or whatever, but I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing ads on the site. If you can supplement cost covering with some (responsibly implemented) banners or something, I can’t imagine anyone’s having a problem with that.
  • edited July 15
    You know what would be super awesome, a "monthly card buy option" but instead of supporting DB/TP/WRG it goes straight to datacore servercosts. I wouldnt be surprised if alot of users buy that offer, it could be 0,99$ and/or 1,99$ and would give 25 and/or 50 Vip points. Could also be in portal packs menu
  • DScottHewittDScottHewitt ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, awesome folks! I don’t spend on the game, but I’d be into spending on y’alls work if you do a crowd fund thingy. We should be able to cover your costs with no trouble, even via a load of people giving you 10 cents a month lol.

    I don’t know if this is a can of worms or whatever, but I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing ads on the site. If you can supplement cost covering with some (responsibly implemented) banners or something, I can’t imagine anyone’s having a problem with that.

    IronSource can help with ads.....


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    Too soon.... :smiley:

    Like a joke about Wash and Reaver harpoons?










    It'll always be too soon?

    Keep calm & October 15th!!!!!
  • Dirk GundersonDirk Gunderson ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, awesome folks! I don’t spend on the game, but I’d be into spending on y’alls work if you do a crowd fund thingy. We should be able to cover your costs with no trouble, even via a load of people giving you 10 cents a month lol.

    I don’t know if this is a can of worms or whatever, but I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing ads on the site. If you can supplement cost covering with some (responsibly implemented) banners or something, I can’t imagine anyone’s having a problem with that.

    IronSource can help with ads.....


    😆🤔😆🤔😆

    Too soon.... :smiley:

    Like a joke about Wash and Reaver harpoons?










    It'll always be too soon?

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  • Prime Lorca [10FH]Prime Lorca [10FH] ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm willing to pony up some dough for the 10FH Discord server usage. Keep me in the loop if you go that route. :)
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  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm willing to pony up some dough for the 10FH Discord server usage. Keep me in the loop if you go that route. :)

    Ditto for me & the galactic phoenicians. 🖖
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  • Glad to hear the Datacore is sticking around.
  • Mirror SanoaMirror Sanoa ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic news! Thank you!
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