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No Honor Sale in January (spoiler: optimism ahead!)

On Timelines Talks, @WRG Ben said there would be no honor sale in January or February. This struck a certain sour chord with the community. At first, I was bummed. Then I got to thinking about it. I asked myself a series of questions.

What will it mean for my roster?
Will I want to prioritize crew differently during the next honor sale?
How close will I be to the Klingon collection (mentioned by Ben) milestones when it is released this month?
Which collection could be released next month?
Where will I be in relation to those milestones?
What is the new game mode to be announced in February?
Which crew will I want to prioritize in that game mode?
How will that affect my behold decisions?
I could easily save citations from an honor sale, but if they had the sale now, how much would I regret behold decisions when March rolls around?

Realistically, I want a chance to evaluate the new changes and game mode before I go making 20+ behold decisions. In that regard, I'm glad they're waiting on the honor sale. It seems like the right thing to do for all the captains here who play the long game.
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  • Emperor Borg DroneEmperor Borg Drone ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know. There's no communication on the second week of Convergence Day celebrations yet, so I'll wait for that to decide if I'm disappointed or not.

    Generally speaking, honor sales are probably the only thing that I really look forward to in the game and I won't spend my honor outside of one anyway. I don't need to anymore, but it might be different for new players or for people who are very low on crew slots.

    Now I do put a lot of expectations on the new game mode though :sweat_smile:


    And to be honest the thing that disappointed me was the reply to the possibility of different ending times for the gauntlet. I do realize that it would be somewhat complicated to implement, but the reasoning that it would take longer to get people to join one didn't really make sense to me. It's not like now we're staying up until 2 am to join with everyone else anyway. It seems to me like they're not even considering the issue, which might be because it doesn't affect all players.


    But I'll make my personal guesses on whether or not they actually listen to our feedback and suggestions when I see the new game mode. It was mentioned that it was requested by players for a long time, so it will be interesting to see what it is and how it works.
  • Riker's islan{DD}Riker's islan{DD} ✭✭✭
    edited January 7
    @Prime Lorca [10FH] Couldn't agree with you more!

    Also Ben teased something new / different wih the portal and said hold on to your protal pulls.....yet another reason not to want to run though a bunch of beholds right now!!
  • Prime Lorca [10FH]Prime Lorca [10FH] ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Prime Lorca [10FH] that could be, but nothing can change the FACT that TP/WRG did virtually nothing for Christmas. And because of that, I am still upset. Some feel that we should wait for the CD deals. But wait, what about the Christmas deals? These are TWO completely different things and one cannot change the other.

    We're getting a little off track from the honor sale thing. I think the following thread is more appropriate for discussing the lack of winter holiday deals:
    https://forum.disruptorbeam.com/stt/discussion/17331/how-satisfied-are-you-with-the-game-over-the-festive-period#latest

    Again, I sympathize. TP lost some of my money by not having better deals. I hope next year is better. But for the time being, I think it wise to be patient about a pending honor sale.
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  • I was very disappointed about the honor sale as well as most players. Some of them have already left the game after yesterday’s announcements, they have been waiting for too long for new features and changes and not having honor sale has just been the last straw. I keep hopping and waiting
  • I was looking forward to/expecting an honor sale as well; saving it up since the last one. So this is a bummer for me.

    I can see why they don’t want to put it on a schedule, but the regular honor prices are too much IMHO.

    I was hoping for a big haul that would actually kick me into another level of playing (I haven’t been as concentrated on who I cited as many are; just looking to FF my 4/5 crew mainly to finish them).

    But PrimeLorca has a good point. After burning some honor (on beholds; terrible but I couldn’t decide who to cite— and scored my first Fury and a second star in another Legendary) last night to relieve the disappointment, I am now holding tight and looking forward to what comes the rest of the month.

    We all have different opinions on the Big Things that come to us, but Ben seemed really excited for us to see what they have in store, so I am hoping they are game changers and things that knock some of the staleness out of our experiences with Timelines.
  • I was hoping that "someone" from TP's staff would have stepped in to confirm or deny this No Honor sale at this point in the thread. I'll just keep checking back in while my Honor keeps accumulating.
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  • ChaosChildChaosChild ✭✭✭✭
    I was hoping that "someone" from TP's staff would have stepped in to confirm or deny this No Honor sale at this point in the thread. I'll just keep checking back in while my Honor keeps accumulating.
    I only listen to YouTube when I need a refresh on fixing a leaky faucet. :-)

    The details on no honor sale came straight from WRG Ben, that's good enough for me (and I share your general opinion on YouTube, listening to this one was the exception not the rule). But he also said that there would be one in the near future, possibly March. So I choose to remain hopeful and keep saving honor, I should be able to break 1 million in the bank with an extra couple of months.
  • Emperor Borg DroneEmperor Borg Drone ✭✭✭✭✭
    And to be honest the thing that disappointed me was the reply to the possibility of different ending times for the gauntlet. I do realize that it would be somewhat complicated to implement, but the reasoning that it would take longer to get people to join one didn't really make sense to me. It's not like now we're staying up until 2 am to join with everyone else anyway. It seems to me like they're not even considering the issue, which might be because it doesn't affect all players.

    I agree with Ben that having a multitude of Gauntlets running based on when the player joins or by region might be bad idea.

    However someone posted an excellent Idea in YouTube chat. So there are currently 2 Gauntlets starting/ending at 6:00pm cst daily. Why not bump that up slightly to 4 Gauntlets with 2 per day ending at 6am or 6pm depending on the one you join?

    I too am looking for to the new features.
    The new collections are great please keep them up!

    I don't really want to get this thread off track, but I always assumed that if they make changes to the gauntlet ending time, it would either be a rotating one or one with two resets (so the option you are suggesting). I agree that having countless different ending times would be a mess, but I think that's obvious. Ben's reply in the livestream just sounded to me like they never even spent a single thought on this issue.

    And that bothers me, because it's not the first time that they seem to forget that they have players outside of the US (see fleet rewards not being available after reset for the first months, the issue around EU privacy laws...). I'm sure there's less European players than Americans, but we're a substantial group and we spend time and money on Timelines just like everyone else. If they put resources into making sure that the game runs smoothly on all devices, then they should also make sure, when possible, that they're offering the same experience to people in different parts of the world.
  • Veterinary PhloxVeterinary Phlox ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mentioned earlier I'd be disappointed if there wasn't an honor sale for Convergence day. And it's true. But learning about this from a massive info dump certainly lessens the blow. I'm happy to remain patient.
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    Oh man ... if I could find my post from way back when around why having Honor Sales is bad for the game ... voila ...

    It breeds unfounded expectation amongst the player base and feeds into the hoarding mentality ... which in turn means that a player sees little to no crew progression outside of one or two blips a year when they spend big and finally immortalise the Gary Seven (or other critical crew) they picked up ... so players end up sitting on mountains of Honor with a crew that is pretty much the same for 6-12 months (the time between Honor Sales)
    I agree completely. Although I'd prefer if you leave my one star Gary Seven out of this!

    If the cost of a Legendary citation was permanently reduced to 40k I'd stop hording. Well, I'd probably keep a little on hand, getting a begold + citation for 40k is still a great deal, but I'm approaching 400k.



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  • Mirror SanoaMirror Sanoa ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 7

    And to be honest the thing that disappointed me was the reply to the possibility of different ending times for the gauntlet. I do realize that it would be somewhat complicated to implement, but the reasoning that it would take longer to get people to join one didn't really make sense to me. It's not like now we're staying up until 2 am to join with everyone else anyway. It seems to me like they're not even considering the issue, which might be because it doesn't affect all players.

    I joined late and left early, so I did not hear that. The argument makes no sense indeed.

    The starting time could simply be the time stamp when 1 of 200 joined. How is this complicated or prolonging grouping times? Annoying!
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  • And to be honest the thing that disappointed me was the reply to the possibility of different ending times for the gauntlet. I do realize that it would be somewhat complicated to implement, but the reasoning that it would take longer to get people to join one didn't really make sense to me. It's not like now we're staying up until 2 am to join with everyone else anyway. It seems to me like they're not even considering the issue, which might be because it doesn't affect all players.

    I joined late and left early, so I did not hear that. The argument makes no sense indeed.

    The starting time could simply be the time stamp when 1 of 200 joined. How is this complicated or prolonging grouping times? Annoying!

    I agree with this , you just have to look at what they do with gold cards to see it is possible . When you get your gold card you get an offer of a second and a 24 hour timer starts . If they can do this with individual cards then why not with each gauntlet ? A 48 hour timer could start when you have enough people for it .
  • Prime Lorca [10FH]Prime Lorca [10FH] ✭✭✭✭✭
    dext74 wrote: »
    It's disappointing that they express disappointment that players hoard onto currency (honor) and dont spend them, while simultaneously doing as @Bylo Band points out by having surprise sales. I think we would all manage our resources differently if there WAS that expectation of honor sales will occur twice a year a X date. I know Ben seems to think an ingame calendar would make the experience stalr but I disagree - the calendar would provide a better structure and confidence on behalf of the players, in this case so that they won't feel spending remorse to use months of saved honor only to have a sale drop by surprise next week.

    There was mention of the honor economy. I wonder how these two things can be reconciled. They created a situation where many players don't like to spend their honor outside of a sale. And they ran the sale twice in a calendar year, so it set certain expectations. Anything less than meeting those expectations will be viewed as an insult. Basically, I think they need to run the sale at least one more time. They can give notice that it will be the last sale of its kind. The problem there is that it kind of pulls the ladder up behind us (long term players). It makes it harder for newer captains to catch up. So... the solution kind of creates another problem. I can see a small burst of stat creep, starting about 4 months from now as a solution to that problem, but even that is imperfect since long term players will have an edge in getting and developing said new crew. Video game development seems to be quite the balancing act.
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  • I was never really wanting an honor sale in January, as I spent honor on gold cites a little while back and am now just at 1.2k honor.... i’m happy waiting a couple more months so that i’ll be able to actually get something good out of the next sale :smile:
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