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  • WebberoniWebberoni ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    So let me get this straight...

    - Open up 10 missions of each participating faction; 30 total missions.
    - Complete 10 of one single faction.
    - Then open up and complete a second 10 missions from the same faction, of which, they will be 90 minute missions. Use the 3* time reduction boost on each.
    - Then complete the remaining 20 open missions (10 from the remaining factions) - these missions are short duration missions.
    - Once this is complete, you'll be "kickstarted" to 4000 VP mission at 3 hr duration.

    Did I get that correct?

    I tried this technique for the first time this event, and sent my first wave of 4k shuttles just 30 minutes into the event. Remember, the 3* time boosts make missions 11-20 instant completions, one at a time.

    I had managed to finish top-1000 in faction events in the past, but for this event (even with half my 86-89% missions failing) I have been hovering in the 350-850 range through the first 24-hours.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another tip is to assign a boost Before picking crew.. This will push a boosted (featured) crew up to the top of the list if they are better than another crew when boosted.

    Wow! Thanks a ton! I did not know that

  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    Watch out sometimes you need to reapply the same boost to get the best crew with boost to be on top. Usually happens when you pull someone out. It seems to go back to non boosted display of crew.
  • WaldoMagWaldoMag ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I have run a kickstart and no kickstart. When not kickstarting you usually are using more time boosts of all varieties. I score better non kickstarting. However, I have a solid 4 hours at the beginning of an event between my two accounts where I can do nothing else but wait on shuttles.

    Kickstart: gives me time back. Between my two accounts I spend one hour at beginning of event over the four hours for non kickstart.

    I can compensate for crew by varying how far up the success ladder I go. If my boosted crew at 4000 vp still have 60-70% , I do not do a full kickstart.

    Also kickstart uses the time boosts we get the most of through game play, the 3* boost.

    Keep in mind if I run time boosted 1800 vp followed by 2250 vp shuttles time boosted. I have just scored 50 vp better than 4000 vp stat boosted shuttles.

    Or, 2250 and 2750 time boosted, 1000 more vp per a shuttle. However chance of failures go up. Need to have a good amount of 3* time boosts for this.

    Edit: 3500 non time boosted but stat boosted means a loss of 500 vp per a shuttle. But at a increased success rate than 4000.

    Kickstarts that do not take you all the way to 4000vp can score higher. But, they use up a lot of 3* time boosts. ( can use higher time boosts, usually want to have four of them. One can mix a match other time boosts. Trying to keep all shuttles insync every three hours) But you need strong crew that do not need to be stat boosted to succeed. Usually you want your missions to all have success above 80% when time boosted.

    So, I am sure if I could figure out how high in vp I can still use time boosts and keep my shuttles at least at 80% success rate in advance I could score better than a non kickstart. However, the time savings at the beginning of faction event alone, makes a kickstart well worth it.

  • Grant77 wrote: »
    Grant77 wrote: »
    So let me get this straight...

    - Open up 10 missions of each participating faction; 30 total missions.
    - Complete 10 of one single faction.
    - Then open up and complete a second 10 missions from the same faction, of which, they will be 90 minute missions. Use the 3* time reduction boost on each.
    - Then complete the remaining 20 open missions (10 from the remaining factions) - these missions are short duration missions.
    - Once this is complete, you'll be "kickstarted" to 4000 VP mission at 3 hr duration.

    Did I get that correct?

    100% correct. I'd also add that it's not about how many people know of the kickstart - it's always been about crew, player dedication, and... yeah, RNG. Being at 3560 VP within the first 30 mins of the event means practically nothing. If you have good crew, you can start from the ground up and still comfortably hit top 500-750.

    It loses its effectiveness when more people do it. I remember for a couple of months it would be only my fleet and 4 or 5 other people at 3560 VP. Somehow it was leaked or others discovered it. Now kickstarters fill up the leaderboard as far as the eye can see. It's the difference between winning and losing for an F2P like me.

    Actually, it was helpfully posted on the forums by other players. As I said in my video, it's not my strategy - it's been around since forever. I also think that there are better options out there, but this one does it for me.

    As for F2P, these are the players that usually destroy the P2W players on galaxy events due to the sheer amount of chronitons that those players can amass through voyages for free. Many paying players kick it back on galaxy events and opt to work on immortalizing their crew. This way both types of players get to perform well in various events. As such, I don't see any big disparity. I have said it before, had I started during the beta, or back in 2016, I would have remained an F2P person.

    I understand what you are saying. I just meant that the kickstart had a better positive effect when only a few people were doing it. I remember starting out events guns a blazing in the top 50 for a day and then slowly falling back to 900th, winning a 5* by the skin of my teeth as the p2w players caught up. My crew had no business being anywhere near the top 1000. Now with everyone doing it, I do the same thing and end up around 500th after just a few hours.

    It takes a good amount of dilligence to stay there. The fact that you are top 500 on the first day means jack if you don't dedicate the next 3 days to doing the same. An event is not 1 day long, it is 4... as such, things may change big time, and people need to decide how and what to do in their real life, as well as how it is going to impact their in game life. In all fairness, RL must always take precedence, and failing to grab a crew member is a poor excuse for dismissing it. As such, if you can devote some time, do so. If not - just don't for God's sake. STT is a game and is to be treated as such.

    As Picard and Riker "discussed": Sometimes you get the bear... And sometimes the bear gets you.

    You can't catch them all, not always. You are still a person and have to do your own life's stuff, you know :)
  • Grant77 wrote: »
    So let me get this straight...

    - Open up 10 missions of each participating faction; 30 total missions.
    - Complete 10 of one single faction.
    - Then open up and complete a second 10 missions from the same faction, of which, they will be 90 minute missions. Use the 3* time reduction boost on each.
    - Then complete the remaining 20 open missions (10 from the remaining factions) - these missions are short duration missions.
    - Once this is complete, you'll be "kickstarted" to 4000 VP mission at 3 hr duration.

    Did I get that correct?

    100% correct. I'd also add that it's not about how many people know of the kickstart - it's always been about crew, player dedication, and... yeah, RNG. Being at 3560 VP within the first 30 mins of the event means practically nothing. If you have good crew, you can start from the ground up and still comfortably hit top 500-750.

    It loses its effectiveness when more people do it. I remember for a couple of months it would be only my fleet and 4 or 5 other people at 3560 VP. Somehow it was leaked or others discovered it. Now kickstarters fill up the leaderboard as far as the eye can see. It's the difference between winning and losing for an F2P like me.

    I don't know about that. I remember hearing about the kickstart in universal chat after the Prime Directive was shut down and Unlikely Heroes was put up. It was the first first 3 faction event iirc so it was known early). People were speculating it was a bug because that event was cancelled/replaced. The next event (Second Battle of New York) was when it was confirmed that it was not bug and it was an actual strategy you could use.

    Fleets were just social then and you can't archive information from UC so it didn't really spread but most who was playing since near launch knew about it but very few non whales could take advantage of it. Most players didn't have the crew to stay at 4000. Getting to 4000 was a death sentence. I remember failing all the way back down 1800 after getting to 4000 one event. But I also remember missing the whole first day of one event and kickstarting my way to a top 500 finish.
    It was the wild wild west back then......good times.
  • a thing that I do during kickstart is write (woe to any millennials that dont know cursive) out on paper (that white stuff in your printer) each shuttle mission in a type of shorthand (don't ask). I then identify my best crew (also written down) and with some cross referencing (a non-religious act) I identify the best four missions from one faction and only run those 4 missions for the rest of the event.

    Since my memory isn't perfect, I write (again) these down on a 5"x3" notecard (a type of antique)
  • NeemsNeems ✭✭✭
    a thing that I do during kickstart is write (woe to any millennials that dont know cursive) out on paper (that white stuff in your printer) each shuttle mission in a type of shorthand (don't ask). I then identify my best crew (also written down) and with some cross referencing (a non-religious act) I identify the best four missions from one faction and only run those 4 missions for the rest of the event.

    Since my memory isn't perfect, I write (again) these down on a 5"x3" notecard (a type of antique)

    To my knowledge, most Millennials were forced to learn cursive and use it in elementary school. I polled some, to confirm this. I won't blame you for not realizing it, as the media has turned "Millennial" in to shorthand for "teenager", but Millennials are adults now. The kids you're thinking of are actually called Generation Z.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neems wrote: »
    a thing that I do during kickstart is write (woe to any millennials that dont know cursive) out on paper (that white stuff in your printer) each shuttle mission in a type of shorthand (don't ask). I then identify my best crew (also written down) and with some cross referencing (a non-religious act) I identify the best four missions from one faction and only run those 4 missions for the rest of the event.

    Since my memory isn't perfect, I write (again) these down on a 5"x3" notecard (a type of antique)

    To my knowledge, most Millennials were forced to learn cursive and use it in elementary school. I polled some, to confirm this. I won't blame you for not realizing it, as the media has turned "Millennial" in to shorthand for "teenager", but Millennials are adults now. The kids you're thinking of are actually called Generation Z.

    Born in 74 and taught cursive in school
  • 1974 makes you Gen X. Welcome to the club :)
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    1974 makes you Gen X. Welcome to the club :)

    I see it as the Beavis and Butthead. That show defined my generation
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neems wrote: »
    a thing that I do during kickstart is write (woe to any millennials that dont know cursive) out on paper (that white stuff in your printer) each shuttle mission in a type of shorthand (don't ask). I then identify my best crew (also written down) and with some cross referencing (a non-religious act) I identify the best four missions from one faction and only run those 4 missions for the rest of the event.

    Since my memory isn't perfect, I write (again) these down on a 5"x3" notecard (a type of antique)

    To my knowledge, most Millennials were forced to learn cursive and use it in elementary school. I polled some, to confirm this. I won't blame you for not realizing it, as the media has turned "Millennial" in to shorthand for "teenager", but Millennials are adults now. The kids you're thinking of are actually called Generation Z.

    Z is for Zombie :)
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    1974 makes you Gen X. Welcome to the club :)

    I see it as the Beavis and Butthead. That show defined my generation

    God, no. Just...no.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    1974 makes you Gen X. Welcome to the club :)

    I see it as the Beavis and Butthead. That show defined my generation

    You were almost 20 when double B's came up.... that's several kinds of messed up.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show

    Being of your generation, it defined the kids coming up behind us a whole lot more--- the next gen as it were.

    You're the only person I've met born before 79 to even posit the thought.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show

    Being of your generation, it defined the kids coming up behind us a whole lot more--- the next gen as it were.

    You're the only person I've met born before 79 to even posit the thought.

    Yeah. I’m an awful person. I get it

  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show

    Being of your generation, it defined the kids coming up behind us a whole lot more--- the next gen as it were.

    You're the only person I've met born before 79 to even posit the thought.

    Yeah. I’m an awful person. I get it

    Not horrible, just not hangin with people your own age. Never said the show was evil. Nor lowbrow. It just didn't define the generation you'd be associated with if it was by age. Gen Y folks like my spouse (8 years my junior) run that flag up, along with things like Grunge and angsty female vocals with minimal instruments.

    Might explain some other things tho.
  • DpmtDpmt ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    1974 makes you Gen X. Welcome to the club :)

    I see it as the Beavis and Butthead. That show defined my generation

    You were almost 20 when double B's came up.... that's several kinds of messed up.

    It's always been a shame the defining show wasn't Daria. Daria as a show holds up much better overall.

    I'm a millennial BTW.
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show

    Being of your generation, it defined the kids coming up behind us a whole lot more--- the next gen as it were.

    You're the only person I've met born before 79 to even posit the thought.

    Yeah. I’m an awful person. I get it

    Not horrible, just not hangin with people your own age. Never said the show was evil. Nor lowbrow. It just didn't define the generation you'd be associated with if it was by age. Gen Y folks like my spouse (8 years my junior) run that flag up, along with things like Grunge and angsty female vocals with minimal instruments.

    Might explain some other things tho.

    I agree. I think we X-rs were more defined by the 80's sitcoms. Oh and Knight Rider. Cause...awesome.

    Edit:. I'll throw in A-Team for good measure. And maybe Dukes of Hazard.
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Magisse wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    Pallidyne wrote: »
    I admit it’s a little low brow but I stand by it being my generations defining show

    Being of your generation, it defined the kids coming up behind us a whole lot more--- the next gen as it were.

    You're the only person I've met born before 79 to even posit the thought.

    Yeah. I’m an awful person. I get it

    Not horrible, just not hangin with people your own age. Never said the show was evil. Nor lowbrow. It just didn't define the generation you'd be associated with if it was by age. Gen Y folks like my spouse (8 years my junior) run that flag up, along with things like Grunge and angsty female vocals with minimal instruments.

    Might explain some other things tho.

    I agree. I think we X-rs were more defined by the 80's sitcoms. Oh and Knight Rider. Cause...awesome.

    Edit:. I'll throw in A-Team for good measure. And maybe Dukes of Hazard.

    I coveted that Trans-Am.

    Wait, did the Hoff ever guest star on ST? If so, we NEED that card, STAT.

    EDIT: The Hoff never appeared on Star Trek, according to TV Guide (remember that little magazine?).
    "In the short run, the game defines the players. But in the long run, it's us players who define the game." -- Nicky Case, The Evolution of Trust
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Hey, I'm not at all of the generation that grew up with Beavis & Butt-head either, but I still love that show. However, I personally never felt "defined" by the shows I was probably supposed to be defined by, for my generation... one of my favorite shows of all time, The Dick Van **tsk tsk** Show, came out in a much earlier generation.

    In addition, I was not only taught cursive in school, I was also taught cursing. (Although now I get my best curse words from this forum. You bunch of Mother Hortas.) >:)

    Edit: lol, really, DB? Dick Van Hugs, eh?

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    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Just say the before we knew he **tsk tsk** folks Cosby show and anything written by Stephen J Cannell and you've got most 80s kids. As far as MTV we though it was where we caught new music -- Martha Quinn or maybe Colin Quinn on Remote Control.

    Hell, most folks I knew in HS (and we're talking football players, cheerleaders as well as Dramies and Bandies) were watching Next Gen. In fact Picard and Data were both quoted by the salutatorian and i got a Riker and Kirk quote now and again from my Football coach.
  • {DD} Smelly{DD} Smelly ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was born in 75. I absolutely agree that Beavis and Butthead defined our generation. That show was so popular that it would be playing on TVs at parties and people would stop to watch it.
  • Wow, what a wonderful walk down memory lane. Thanks all! As for B&B, yuck. But back then, give me a walkman and a stack of Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Megadeath and I was a happy camper. Spent HS loving TNG and having a major crush on Troi. <3<3<3
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Edit: lol, really, DB? Dick Van Hugs, eh?
    Awesome. Kind of surprised it let you get away with his first name for that matter.
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, what a wonderful walk down memory lane. Thanks all! As for B&B, yuck. But back then, give me a walkman and a stack of Black Sabbath, Metallica, and Megadeath and I was a happy camper. Spent HS loving TNG and having a major crush on Troi. <3<3<3

    You may not have liked Beavis & Butt-head, but it sounds like you guys may have attended some of the same concerts.

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    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • Data1001Data1001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Magisse wrote: »
    Data1001 wrote: »
    Edit: lol, really, DB? Dick Van Hugs, eh?
    Awesome. Kind of surprised it let you get away with his first name for that matter.

    "I'll take 'Celebrities Whose Names Sound Dirty' for $500, Alex."
    "His famous 1960 horror classic was nominated for 4 Academy Awards, and made women everywhere afraid of the shower."
    "Who is Alfred Hitchhugs?"
    "Correct."


    Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.
    ~ Data, ST:TNG "Haven"
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was born in 75. I absolutely agree that Beavis and Butthead defined our generation. That show was so popular that it would be playing on TVs at parties and people would stop to watch it.

    Thank you! I don’t see things that happened when I was 10, such as Knight Rider (I estimated so I don’t need exact age here), to be of my generation. I see things that occurred early in adulthood as generational. I have played on stages with Fuel, Green Day, Disturbed. I tried out to be Limp Bizkits guitar player. That is the music of my generation because I was able to be a part of it. Not bands or other things that were around when I was 10.
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