Colonel Worf and Fierce Guinan announced on Facebook

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edited November 2017 in The Bridge
"If your crew can handle the trek, Voyages can offer an intrepid Captain great rewards. During those Voyages, you may encounter new crew to join you such as Colonel Worf and Fierce Guinan." - from facebook
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  • Peachtree RexPeachtree Rex ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, for clarity, are these two characters only obtainable via voyages (and, presumably, Dabo)?
  • barrydancerbarrydancer ✭✭✭✭
    Oooh, nice. Though CMD/DIP is definitely not an area I'm lacking in...
  • So.... random RNG only drops? Explains the (two) reports we've heard of those characters dropping for folks from voyages.
  • Yet even more 2-skill crew... at least Colonel Worf looks FAR better than Klingon O'Brien!
  • Shan.. Pebble.. clarification or confirmation please ?
  • So many 2 star crew at the moment. I guess that creates a bit more in the way of tactics as to who to use for Voyages and who to use for shuttles...
  • Jim SteeleJim Steele ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have guinan from a voyage. Not seen worf yet
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  • Torias327Torias327 ✭✭✭✭
    Guinan dropped for me from the first (and only) “Part 3” dilemma I have seen. She was also fairly easy to level.
  • I got Colonel Worf. I was stockpiling for a Galaxy Event so I was letting my Voyages run long. So I think the dropped at the 8 or 10 hour mark.

    Because DB provides no information I did not even realize that this was one of the few ways to obtain him. Someone on Discord mentioned no one had him yet so I raced to finish him to get my first "first to max".
  • (5) 4* Crew on my current Voyage, had 5 Dilemmas (1 gave me a 4* Crew), no Part 3, no Fierce Guinan. I did finally get my first KDF Gowron, 4th * for Nexus Kirk, and 2nd * for Platonian Kirk. Augment Riker and Mirror Jennifer Sisko are already FF/FE so 400 honor from them. Voyages has given me 92 4* crew, of which about 60% were new or fusable. It has kept me busy... but keeping an eye out for Guinan because I like her character(s).
  • Too bad some of us are still stuck on a voyage needing support to get us out of... I have not been able to do a voyage for about a week! (And Shan says it could be up to 3 more weeks to get support on my ticket?! No Voyages for me until it gets done)
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  • So, for clarity, are these two characters only obtainable via voyages (and, presumably, Dabo)?

    DB have confirmed on Twitter that both characters are exclusive to voyages.
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  • Thanks!
  • ~peregrine~~peregrine~ ✭✭✭✭
    Torias wrote: »
    If it helps, the Dilemma was A Higher Duty, 1, 2 and 3. The path I took was to Support the bad Governor Candidate with a rousing speech, then Recommend he get a harsh sentence in part 2. This triggered part 3 where he jail breaks and attacks the colony for revenge just like you would expect (seriously, right?). For part 3 I chose to disable the ship and it rewarded Fierce Guinan. I had all 3 parts in 8 hours so I may be insanely lucky, but it proves you don’t necessarily have to pay for a 12 or 14 hour long voyage.

    Thank you very, very, VERY much for posting this information! When I encountered the Part 1, I immediately came back here to review the steps you took, and I made the same choices. I received Purple Whoopi after the Part 3 dilemma, using 2 antimatter refills for 76+102=178 dilithium to reach the 10-hour mark.

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  • Torias wrote: »
    If it helps, the Dilemma was A Higher Duty, 1, 2 and 3. The path I took was to Support the bad Governor Candidate with a rousing speech, then Recommend he get a harsh sentence in part 2. This triggered part 3 where he jail breaks and attacks the colony for revenge just like you would expect (seriously, right?). For part 3 I chose to disable the ship and it rewarded Fierce Guinan. I had all 3 parts in 8 hours so I may be insanely lucky, but it proves you don’t necessarily have to pay for a 12 or 14 hour long voyage.

    So if there is a specific way to get guinan, can anyone help and let us know if/what the choices need to be to get worf?
  • edited November 2017
    Torias wrote: »
    If it helps, the Dilemma was A Higher Duty, 1, 2 and 3. The path I took was to Support the bad Governor Candidate with a rousing speech, then Recommend he get a harsh sentence in part 2. This triggered part 3 where he jail breaks and attacks the colony for revenge just like you would expect (seriously, right?). For part 3 I chose to disable the ship and it rewarded Fierce Guinan. I had all 3 parts in 8 hours so I may be insanely lucky, but it proves you don’t necessarily have to pay for a 12 or 14 hour long voyage.

    So if there is a specific way to get guinan, can anyone help and let us know if/what the choices need to be to get worf?

    Until he is seen and reported on matter-of-fact, I would suspect that it's RNG on the Part 3 whether you get Guinan or Worf. Or they added another Part 3 to another chain that we don't know about. You know how transparent DB likes to be!
  • I would assume Choice B for A Higher Duty, part 3. All three images I've seen were from Choice A.
  • Torias327Torias327 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017


    And you are very, very, VERY welcome Peregrine :)

    Interesting theory on Worf, as well, with choice B, but since I need 3 more Guinans, I may try to strike lightning twice with Choice A should I be blessed enough to see it again.

  • Thanks for the info on this. The unfortunate thing is the the Dilemma's for "A Higher Duty" are not consecutive within the voyage. I had it pop up at the 4 hour dilemma...and here I am heading to the 10 hour dilemma and still have not hit part 2....
  • Capt. ChaosCapt. Chaos ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I got Colonel Worf. I was stockpiling for a Galaxy Event so I was letting my Voyages run long. So I think the dropped at the 8 or 10 hour mark.

    Because DB provides no information I did not even realize that this was one of the few ways to obtain him. Someone on Discord mentioned no one had him yet so I raced to finish him to get my first "first to max".

    That makes me want to extend voyages again. Need Col. Worf to complete the set.
  • Paladin 27Paladin 27 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I’ve had a higher duty as first dilemma two voyages in a row and no part two in either through the 8 hr one.
  • PallidynePallidyne ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had part 1 at 4 hr, part 2 at 8 hour, so heck I figure, lets extend and try for 3.... well 20 hours in-- -no 3 and out of dil so recalling. Shame on me for putting it on the roulette wheel.

    There's too many dilemmas and it's too RNG for it to be worth chasing for me, as I just learned the hard way.

    Hope you folks enjoy your whoopi and worf as I ain't trying this again.
  • Pallidyne wrote: »
    Had part 1 at 4 hr, part 2 at 8 hour, so heck I figure, lets extend and try for 3.... well 20 hours in-- -no 3 and out of dil so recalling. Shame on me for putting it on the roulette wheel.

    There's too many dilemmas and it's too RNG for it to be worth chasing for me, as I just learned the hard way.

    Hope you folks enjoy your whoopi and worf as I ain't trying this again.

    That's terrible. I'll definitely be keeping this in mind and likely not extending voyages more than I otherwise would. Too RNG for sure.
  • FreshFresh ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Ever since this thread popped up I cannot seem to get this dilemma to come up. lol. RNG
  • So is it being proposed that certain cards drop from specific choices?

    I’ve have other super rare crew drop from dilemmas so does that mean if I made those exact same choices I would get the exact same super rare?

    I hope this is true and someone figures out the code.

    up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A
  • MagisseMagisse ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ace Boogie wrote: »
    I hope this is true and someone figures out the code.

    up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A
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  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ace Boogie wrote: »
    So is it being proposed that certain cards drop from specific choices?

    I’ve have other super rare crew drop from dilemmas so does that mean if I made those exact same choices I would get the exact same super rare?

    I hope this is true and someone figures out the code.

    up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A

    For general 4* crew it's not true. Certain dilemmas will yield 4* vs 3* or 2* crew, but what crew is selected appears to be random. It's possible that Guinan drops from a specific dilemma, or it's possible that she drops from any 4* dilemma and we only have limited examples to see it so far.
  • Cal.me.IshmalCal.me.Ishmal ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I cant figure out how to start a new thread, But maybe by doing this we can all figure out the best paths for best rewards? or what path allowed the part 2 or 3

    2h Cracks in wall
    1: Cross Border --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Wesely
    2: Ensure Destress
    3: Ignor Distress

    4h What Smiles May Hide
    1: Allow trader to board --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* tech rom
    2: Tell the trader make other arrangements

    6h Blow by blow
    1: Protect the Adoriian --- 30 honor 30 Chrons, 3* B'Etor
    2: Protect the Gorn

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    2h Champion of the people - PART 1
    1: Reveal leaders true identity
    2: Allow the colonists to follow her --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Data

    4h The Greater Need
    1: Consficate the stolen items --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Glin Damar
    2: Allow scavenger to leave with she taken

    6h Profit in the wind
    1: give mining rights to colonists
    2: give mining rights to Ferengi company who found it--- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Ro

    8h Retrofit
    1: give space for deflector array development--- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* tech rom
    2: give space for torpedo development

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________

    2h Off the books - PART 1
    1: Agent Use ship --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* kirk
    2: Rufuse agent use of Ship

    4h What Smiles May Hide
    1: Allow trader to board
    2: Tell the trader make other arrangements 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Janeway

    6h True to the Uniform
    1: Recommend the commander for promotion--- 3* pollyalloy (brown handcuffs)
    2: advise against promoting the commander
    3: Decline to comment on the potential promoion

    8h Retrofit
    1: give space for deflector array development
    2: give space for torpedo development --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Tucker

    10h Next Stop, Absolution
    1: Take Stowaway to see family --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Chief Worf
    2: arrest maquis stowaway
    3: leave stowaway at nearest outpost

    _______________________________________________________________________________________________

    2h Sticks and Stones
    1: endure the Klingons Cpts Insult --- 2 x 3* Casing (white handcuffs)
    2: Insult the Drunken Cpt for his behavior
    3: Correct the Rummors the klingon capt has heard

    4h What Smiles May Hide
    1: Allow trader to board --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Paris
    2: Tell the trader make other arrangements

    _____________________________________________________________________________________________

    2h by our own hands
    1: Repay the outpost for what counterpart took--- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Mayweather
    2: Reasure inhabitants that crew means no harm

    4h Next Stop, Absolution
    1: Take Stowaway to see family
    2: arrest maquis stowaway --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* lt Cmd Data
    3: leave stowaway at nearest outpost

    6h The Cost of Living
    1: Continue to help the colonists search for cure--- 100 honor, 75 chrons, 4* Niners Rom
    2: Refuse to help til doc. Stopped experiments
    3: Leave the colonists to find a cure on their own

    8h A Life Alone - PART 1
    1: encourage oung trill to join starfleet --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* KDF Alexander
    2: advise young trill to look for other purpose

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________

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    2h Champion of the people - PART 1
    1: Reveal leaders true identity --- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Rom
    2: Allow the colonists to follow her

    4h Champion of the people - PART 2
    1: Arrest all of the mercenaries for attacking the crew
    2: Give the Ventaxian a chance to flee--- 60 honor, 50 chrons, 3* Commander Krunge

    6h by our own hands
    1: Repay the outpost for what counterpart took
    2: Reasure inhabitants that crew means no harm--- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Sito Jaxa

    8h Cracks in the Wall
    1: Cross the border and assist the romulan interceptor
    2: Ensure that the distress call reaches romulan ship--- 30 honor, 30 chrons, 2* Glin Damar
    3: Ignor the distress call

  • I hope that there isn’t one, and only one, path to earn these characters. With how much RNG is in the rest of the game, I can’t imagine that DB would have designed something to be so straightforward. But, I guess time will tell. I’m interested to hear if people have gotten Worf or Guinan as rewards from other dilemma/choices on a voyage.
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