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  • Legate Damar Legate Damar ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are there any plans on adding the Xindi Aquatic to the Delphic Expanse collection?
  • dext74dext74 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    1701 Sisko, Dax, and Bashir would like to have a word with you. (Also 23rd Century Martok, and I'm sure several others...)
  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.
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  • EnderWEnderW ✭✭✭✭✭
    EnderW wrote: »
    Excellent news on the Guinan. That's two crew from Time's Arrow in the last two months.

    Maybe a collection soon?

    Sounds good, but I would very much like a Samuel Clemens. I love Mark Twain books and short stories. I would work hard for that event.

    **slams fist onto the table**

    You all are really missing the obvious: I demand a 1* Data's Head! :D

    LOL! I just last night watched the episode where Riker had to detach Data's head and hook it up to the computer so he could save the ship.

    Yeah, Disaster gave me this idea when I rewatched it a few weeks back. But there are two different times that Data was just his head: the quantum filament episode but also as a historical artifact in Time's Arrow. Honestly, I could see either being a 1* card with just Eng as the trait. Put it in the Honor Hall, next to Stargazer Picard, same price, and I'd be happy, happy. Just need a 3* Operations Data in the Se 3-7 uniform and he'd have cards in all five rarity levels. :)
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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

  • Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.
  • Emperor Borg Drone (AR)Emperor Borg Drone (AR) ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist
  • W.W. CarlisleW.W. Carlisle ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Yep, if she is a psychiatrist, she's an MD. A psychologist is not. A psychiatrist can prescribe medications, refer to other MDs, etc. A psychologist can't.
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  • Zombie Squirrel Zombie Squirrel ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a fuss about the „century“ name. I have zero issues with it. 🤗
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  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

  • DavideBooksDavideBooks ✭✭✭✭✭
    EnderW wrote: »
    Excellent news on the Guinan. That's two crew from Time's Arrow in the last two months.

    Maybe a collection soon?

    Sounds good, but I would very much like a Samuel Clemens. I love Mark Twain books and short stories. I would work hard for that event.

    **slams fist onto the table**

    You all are really missing the obvious: I demand a 1* Data's Head! :D

    LOL! I just last night watched the episode where Riker had to detach Data's head and hook it up to the computer so he could save the ship.

    Which makes you wonder what happens to Bluetooth in the furture.
  • AviTrekAviTrek ✭✭✭✭✭
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

    No one is talking about phds. Psychiatrist's go to medical school and earn an MD. That is the same school and classes as any other medical doctor. After medical school a psychiatrist does a psychiatry residency just like a cardiologist does a cardiology residency and a neurologist does a neurology residency. Until they start their residency they are all trained exactly the same and then they specialize in a type of medicine just like every other medical doctor.
  • AviTrek wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

    No one is talking about phds. Psychiatrist's go to medical school and earn an MD. That is the same school and classes as any other medical doctor. After medical school a psychiatrist does a psychiatry residency just like a cardiologist does a cardiology residency and a neurologist does a neurology residency. Until they start their residency they are all trained exactly the same and then they specialize in a type of medicine just like every other medical doctor.

    So I guess the question becomes...is Cornwell a trained psychiatrist? I don't remember that being mentioned specifically, but I could be wrong.
  • Banjo1012Banjo1012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

    No one is talking about phds. Psychiatrist's go to medical school and earn an MD. That is the same school and classes as any other medical doctor. After medical school a psychiatrist does a psychiatry residency just like a cardiologist does a cardiology residency and a neurologist does a neurology residency. Until they start their residency they are all trained exactly the same and then they specialize in a type of medicine just like every other medical doctor.

    Guess my simple **tsk tsk**$ should just stick to delivering pizzas

  • Prime Lorca [10FH]Prime Lorca [10FH] ✭✭✭✭✭
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

    No one is talking about phds. Psychiatrist's go to medical school and earn an MD. That is the same school and classes as any other medical doctor. After medical school a psychiatrist does a psychiatry residency just like a cardiologist does a cardiology residency and a neurologist does a neurology residency. Until they start their residency they are all trained exactly the same and then they specialize in a type of medicine just like every other medical doctor.

    Looks like @Banjo1012 was speaking to a cultural difference mentioned by @Emperor Borg Drone (AR) . In some countries, it appears that only medical doctors are allowed to use the title doctor. Many US college professors use the title Dr. It's not completely impossible that Cornwell has a PhD in psychology. I would tend to hope that not to be the case, but I have very little confidence in Discovery writers when it comes to technical nuance such as this. In fact, I think they're the least knowledgeable of any Trek series when it comes to science or any sort of nuance. They can tell some good, engaging stories, but they also have their failings.
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  • Emperor Borg Drone (AR)Emperor Borg Drone (AR) ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 4
    AviTrek wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    Banjo1012 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    That is not what bugs me. What bugs me is that she is not a physician. Makes it a lil harder to use her in voyages and another physician would be greatly helpful to finishing the expanded physician collection. Nurse makes sense for the episode but physician would be helpful. She was after all a physician in disguise as a nurse.

    She was diagnosing patients and acting as a medical examiner (always a doctor) too. Physician would make as much sense as nurse. You could tell she hated being the nurse. GMcF nailed it.

    And while we’re at it, there’s a certain admiral from Discovery who would like a word with the ‘physician trait addition department’ :wink:

    oh2n41amj8ul.jpeg

    Wasn’t she more of a counselor?

    That's always been my understanding. And a psychologist/psychiatrist is not the same as a physician.

    A psychiatrist is also a physician (or at least here in Italy you have to complete your medical studies before you specialize as a psychiatrist and therefore all psychiatrists are also officially registered as physicians).

    I think the argument is based on the fact that in her conversation with Lorca she basically says that she's a doctor, which would be weird if she was a psychologist or counselor only. I think this varies from place to place, but at least in the 3 or 4 European countries that I'm familiar with psychologists and counselors don't refer to themselves as doctors (nor are they allowed to).

    EDIT: It seems to be similar in most places though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatrist

    Here, there are several things you can get a doctorate in. Education for example. Dr. Smith, the educator for example, is a very far cry from a physician. Counselor Troi certainly showed no indication of having any actual physician ability. Having the MED skill, yes of course, but physician trait is a whole other ballgame.

    No one is talking about phds. Psychiatrist's go to medical school and earn an MD. That is the same school and classes as any other medical doctor. After medical school a psychiatrist does a psychiatry residency just like a cardiologist does a cardiology residency and a neurologist does a neurology residency. Until they start their residency they are all trained exactly the same and then they specialize in a type of medicine just like every other medical doctor.

    Looks like @Banjo1012 was speaking to a cultural difference mentioned by @Emperor Borg Drone (AR) . In some countries, it appears that only medical doctors are allowed to use the title doctor. Many US college professors use the title Dr. It's not completely impossible that Cornwell has a PhD in psychology. I would tend to hope that not to be the case, but I have very little confidence in Discovery writers when it comes to technical nuance such as this. In fact, I think they're the least knowledgeable of any Trek series when it comes to science or any sort of nuance. They can tell some good, engaging stories, but they also have their failings.

    It's very likely that in the episode they were referring to doctors as physicians though, given the context. I honestly can't remember the exact dialogue, but when she urges him to seek treatment for his eyes, Lorca tells her that he doesn't trust doctors and she's a bit offended about it, being a doctor herself. It seems obvious that they're talking about physicians and not people with a PhD.

    Anyway, it doesn't bother me too much that she doesn't have the physician trait, since that's obviously not her job anymore at the time of DISCO season 1. I'm a lot more bothered by the fact that she doesn't have "Survivalist" when a lot of other cards have it simply because the characters proved tough to kill in their respective episodes :#
  • dext74 wrote: »
    EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    1701 Sisko, Dax, and Bashir would like to have a word with you. (Also 23rd Century Martok, and I'm sure several others...)

    Ack, you're right! OK, then I have no explanation for such silly names.
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  • EnderW wrote: »
    Still with this "Century" naming convention. I guess we just have to get use to this odd word choice.

    But bringing the Xindi-Aquatics into the game is a nice balm; and it's looking like a really good Dip shuttler too (base is 1300+).

    The naming bugs me, too. I am surprised they doubled-down on it after "Century Nurse Crusher". I just assumed it was supposed to be something like "19th Century..." but they realized they couldn't start a name with a number, couldn't get around it and just lopped it off at the last minute. But if they're doing it again maybe it was (mind-bogglingly) intentional? Or they made the same mistake twice.

    Can’t start a name with a number? All the cards that have names starting with “1701” would like a word.
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